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Stop sniffing Trump's farts: MTG on 60 Minutes (Public Board)

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Tuesday, December 09, 2025, 15:36 (20 days ago)
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Wednesday, December 10, 2025, 00:33

The Trump-MTG divorce analyzed by Glenn Greenwald.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_xN5Ru27k

Trump's post on Truth social lambasting MTG for being interviewed on 60 Minutes sounds like the ranting of an adolescent:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115684406134734247

Jesus f***ing Christ, she helped him get elected. She basically helped keep him out of prison. If Trump had not been elected you would be seeing the complete forced dissolution of his businesses and arrests and indictments against every single fucking Trump family member. MTG disagreed with policy and he escalated to full on personal attack. Fuck Trump for that. Fucking goddamned idiot.

I wonder if Trump has some dementia onset? This was always true but his hyper narcissist tenderness over anything that deviates from his thinking is a big liability.

His current track record:

He's giving big tech absolutely anything it wants. While utility rates skyrocket everywhere there are data centers being built everywhere.

He's giving Israel anything Bibi wants. Israel is practically a fourth branch of the US government at this point. BTW fuck Israel.

Hate speech if you criticize Israel.

Intervention into Venezuela strictly as a business concession. More "nation building" under lies and fabricated reasons.

US debt still skyrocketing.

Inflation still high, driven by that US debt.

Rampant escalating politically driven violence in the US. (Re: Tim Pool's compound shot at over the weekend while the left cackles and sneers.) Rampant violence in the US escalating in general.

YEAH, deportations, but the numbers are miniscule compared to the actual problem, and it's causing essentially civil war in those areas. No control of the ensuing violence/rioting.

Also: NO SIGNIFICANT RETRIBUTION. Examples - Alejandro Majorkas, NOTHING. Comey, NOTHING.

NOT ONE DEMOCRAT HAS PAID **ANY** PRICE FOR THE LIES, IMPRISONMENTS AND SLANDERS.

Much more.

I'm more forgiving about his lack of impact on Ukraine but that involves two other players (Ukraine and Russia) but still he was totally BSing about solving it in 24 hours. also I am not counting the trade and tariff policy. I personally think tariffs had to be done some time to counter mainly China but the economy is practically prostrate so it's a horrible time to impose harsh economic measures.

And yes, I don't take and never have taken anything Trump says literally so I'm not playing that game. But his presidency seems quite hollow compared to the promise.

Not certain about JD Vance. He appears to be a tool of the surveillance state and big tech. Palantir basically wants to own every piece of data about you.

The only unqualified win I can see arising from this administration is the essential elimination of wokism from public life and policy. But this is also be a shift in the public sentiment.

Promises made and hardly kept. Oh, but he can spend untold energy getting the zingers off.

Quite a few on the right have utterly unqualified faith in Trump's intentions and ability to get desirable results - and you faithfully follow anything he says, such as "primary Massie" so Massie is now a P.O.S. because Trump said so.

If the 2024 election were held today I would not vote for any presidential candidate. Trump didn't deserve my vote.

My assessment: Trump's administration will not move the needle on avoiding system collapse. Above and beyond points I made above this is the main thing and this is due to increasing military obligations combined with uncontrolled spending and profound polarization.

In fact several negative trends are accelerating such as the debt spending as well as political violence.

He's had his chance, we will soon lose congress, and nothing will get done. But he'll keep insulting and character assassinating anyone who helped him. Which to him is a good use of his attention and energy.

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PS

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Tuesday, December 09, 2025, 16:09 (20 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Trump is still the best president we could have right now at this point in history.

That is basically saying the US is a failed state.

I still wouldn't vote for him again. I would abstain my vote.

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PPS

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Tuesday, December 09, 2025, 19:22 (20 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

I'm sick and tired and done with Trump's substanceless zingers and personal attacks.

Trump is not God so his saying something does not will it into existence. :-P

Trump's insult machine was funny, edgy, and focused attention on real issues ten years ago. It's gotten tiresome.

I'd give him a pass if he was accomplishing substantive things on civil order and the economy.

But for me Trump's zingers register today as "DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AND STOP SCREWING AROUND."

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Trump polling crashing and Trump is clueless - he has lost the plot

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Wednesday, December 10, 2025, 01:21 (20 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Wednesday, December 10, 2025, 01:25

Glenn Greenwald again:

https://youtu.be/xLHW2bGzTFk?si=WnPbtrNiN_YDxGeP&t=498

The time point I'm sharing is characterizing how WH staffers are currently trying to educate Trump on what average Americans think of their lives and the economy, esp. cost of living, but Trump is stuck on saying back that the economy is great. He is defending that position to staff who are giving him reality lessons.

In 2016 Trump had a razor sharp focus on the strongest concerns of average people. Today in 2025 Trump is almost completely out of touch.

Importantly this means 1) he's not taking the cost of living crisis seriously and 2) the House will probably be lost in the midterms.

In a slightly longer timeframe this puts huge negative pressure on the 2028 campaign.

All Trump would have to do about cost of living is bullshit that he understands the exact problem and that he is working on solutions. His base would probably buy it long enough to give them breathing room. IOW he doesn't have to DO anything. But he has no idea. He's lost the optics.

Stop sniffing Trump's farts: MTG on 60 Minutes

by JoFrance, Wednesday, December 10, 2025, 19:40 (19 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

I like MTG, but why the public fight? Why spill your guts on "The View" and 60 Minutes and trash President Trump? So, she has different ideas about what he should be doing as President. So what?

I agree with her that Trump hasn't concentrated enough on domestic issues, but she doesn't consider the cards he was dealt. Biden left a world at war and Trump had to deal with it. He works tirelessly to handle our out of control world.

I don't like his insults at all and think he should clean up his act. More later . . .

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Stop sniffing Trump's farts: MTG on 60 Minutes

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Wednesday, December 10, 2025, 23:12 (19 days ago) @ JoFrance
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Wednesday, December 10, 2025, 23:30

I like MTG, but why the public fight?

Trump had already attacked her. The social post I quoted was after the TV interview.

Why spill your guts on "The View" and 60 Minutes and trash President Trump?

I see it quite differently.

First of all, I don't like 60 Minutes either but Fox probably wouldn't ask any hardball questions or would deflect the fight, and the independent networks like Newsnation don't have the same reach. The other two major networks have nothing like a stand alone serious interview show in prime time.

So, she has different ideas about what he should be doing as President. So what?

She pretty much totally staked her political career on proximity to Trump and MAGA. Helped him get elected. Then Trump had declared her to be "cast out". She claims she started getting overt threats, and he scoffed at it.

Trump stabbed her not in the back but in the face in full public view. He's pretty much slandering her constantly, so IMO she wanted to get her side out.

IOW, MTGs' move with 60 Minutes was totally proportional. It's pure personality shit, sure. But she did not throw the first personal punch.

My overall point was that Trump initiated a pointless distracting fight that does nothing but divide the base, and for what with so many much bigger problems going on. That was my point.

I agree with her that Trump hasn't concentrated enough on domestic issues, but she doesn't consider the cards he was dealt.

You have no idea what she considers or not (I don't either.) I kinda tend to think that she knows the environment too.

Biden left a world at war and Trump had to deal with it. He works tirelessly to handle our out of control world.

That is dangerously close to Trump fart sniffing, sorry. He's just doing what comes to mind. Working tirelessly? Hard to tell. (I agree about Biden, not on the presumption of Trump's focus.)

Example: I have absolutely no idea why the US intervening in the trade routes of foreign nations that don't even affect us that as anything to do with capturing an oil tanker. We committed piracy with that capture. And we're about to enter Venezuela.

Trump is more of a war president than we've had since Bush while campaigning as "America First" and a peace maker. Venezuela regime change doesn't help me or any other American one bit (unless you own defense stock.)

I don't like his insults at all and think he should clean up his act. More later . . .

We both agree on that point. It's not 2017, memes and insults are no longer cute. We've graduated to shanks and bullets as a society.

Stop sniffing Trump's farts: MTG on 60 Minutes

by JoFrance, Thursday, December 11, 2025, 19:47 (18 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

What about MTG on The View and being good friends for years with Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin. Its not a good look for her. I wonder where her loyalties really lie?

https://x.com/saras76/status/1999172343873343585

She didn't like that we bombed Iran or that we supported Israel in the war. Trump did it in hopes to bring some sort of peace to the Middle East and to advance the Abraham Accords so that the Arab countries will accept that Israel has the right to exist. Its a fragile peace but its working so far.

She wanted the Epstein files released and they are being released. The courts in NYC and FL are unsealing the grand jury testimonies too. Congress voted on it and Trump agrees. He has nothing to hide.

Look at all Trump has accomplished in his short time in office. He has made billions in tariff revenues and renegotiated most of our trade deals with other countries. He has gotten deals with companies to bring back manufacturing to America. No tariffs if you do that. We're not going to see the benefit of this for awhile, but the foundation is laid.

With Venezuela and the military buildup, Trump is going after the drug cartels. Maduro is a big part of that and the US isn't going to allow it to continue anymore. I read the oil tanker is a Ukrainian vessel that was sanctioned.

More later . . .

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Allow me to bottom line my own concern

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Thursday, December 11, 2025, 22:43 (18 days ago) @ JoFrance
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Friday, December 12, 2025, 01:04

... which prioritizes the most important things:

1) Avoiding economic collapse
2) Avoiding social collapse
3) Defending the US

I'm not sold that Trump is effectively doing #1. He's basically banking on big tech and AI which are seriously oversold and in a bubble, along with crypto, along with the treasury actually buying stock in companies (fusion of state+private interests - a bad idea). Basically instead of dealing with spending he is pushing economic growth as a strategy to get the US out of debt. And the growth he's seeking doesn't provide that many jobs, it just makes 1 percenters wealthier. (IE, data centers once online have minimal staffing needs, and those people are likely not from the surrounding area because they're specialists.) He has no other economic play. That's it - growth of hyped stuff. If you're blue collar you can FOAD.

#2 is also not happening. We have more polarization than anytime before, more anger than any time before, and a huge problem with public safety (IE, rioting, random violence, and people getting stabbed on commuter trains.)

#3 is OK but the US is pretty much riding on the inertia of our size and power. We don't build war ships anymore, for example.

IMO Trump has done constructive things but many of his actions are for show.

The country couldn't be in better hands (given current realpolitik) but that's hardly saying anything.

Allow me to bottom line my own concern

by JoFrance, Friday, December 12, 2025, 20:00 (17 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

On number one:

I think Trump has laid the groundwork for a booming economy. It doesn't kick in till next year. Most financial people think that by the end of the second quarter everyone will feel the effects of the Trump economy. No tax on tips, overtime and Social Security. We just need to be patient for a little awhile. I like his economic pro-growth strategy as a way to pay off the debt.

Being the AI leader among countries is what Trump wants for the US. We have to invest in AI even if its in a bubble to remain competitive.

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Economy-Trump == Pure Hype

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Sunday, December 21, 2025, 22:56 (8 days ago) @ JoFrance
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Sunday, December 21, 2025, 23:32

I think Trump has laid the groundwork for a booming economy.

I totally disagree. Trump has several plays that are all speculations.

He's done NOTHING about the debt or the deficit except very minor wins. The debt is driving inflation which is at the threshold of "hyper". The debt will create more instability.

It doesn't kick in till next year. Most financial people think that by the end of the second quarter everyone will feel the effects of the Trump economy. No tax on tips, overtime and Social Security.

I'm not holding my breath. These tax reductions will have minimal effect. They had a big effect in the 1980s because there was pent up demand and buying power. And there was a much higher standing individual income tax rate that gave Reagan room to turbo charge the economy by lowering federal taxes. (I think the top tax bracket before Reagan's changes was 70%.) The tax breaks today will be incremental. No tax on tips is dribs and drabs for the working poor.

We just need to be patient for a little awhile. I like his economic pro-growth strategy as a way to pay off the debt.

I like his pro-growth but the foundation (the dollar) is crumbling. The price of gold is a signature of how little faith exists in the dollar.

Being the AI leader among countries is what Trump wants for the US. We have to invest in AI even if its in a bubble to remain competitive.

So you think a bubble is good if it's the right bubble.

But OK, assuming AI becomes a big enough business to merit turning half of Indiana into a data center... You won't like the world that AI creates. At a large scale AI is going to eliminate most mid level professional jobs. IE, I bet in five years we're stuck with AI primary care physicians.

And much of the federal push on AI is to create massive surveillance. You ever read about what Palantir has done or is doing?

I personally think one of the most constructive things Trump has done is suggest opening up the US car market to very small cars and cheaper cars. We'll see if he even does it.

The point is, smokestack industries have powered China even tho they are high tech and in other markets you can still buy cheaper basic vehicles. The US auto industry is locked into a paradigm of mediocre mechanical design combined with hyper expensive tech and the auto industry as a direct result is prostrate.

Someone at the governmental level should fix that through tax or investment policy. But it's a smokestack industry and Trump is too fucking stupid to see through hype.

I mean, that's not an absolute. Trump is re-permitting coal production. He does get some things.

But Trump's focus seems heavily imbalanced toward high tech and glitzy leading edge strategies. IE, crypto investment by the Treasury.

Economy-Trump == Pure Hype

by JoFrance, Tuesday, December 23, 2025, 19:48 (6 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Some things are speculations, but Trump has good business instincts. We have to wait and see. He is doing his best, but its a heavy lift. This country was in a deep hole in every way thanks to Biden and Obama. They did major damage to the country that will take years to fix.

I read today the third quarter GDP is 4.3%. That's a positive sign that things are heading the right direction.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/12/23/third-quarter-gdp-grows-4-3-percent-much-stronger-than-expected/

AI is the next big thing so its important to invest in it. It saves a lot of time if you're researching anything, but its not always accurate. It'll get better but it has a long way to go. The US will drive it.

Trump wants to usher in the "Golden Era" and he's giving it his all to right the ship of state. This will be his legacy. His legacy is very important to him.

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not always accurate

by ,ndo, No refunds or exchanges! Fullstop!, Wednesday, December 24, 2025, 00:53 (6 days ago) @ JoFrance

LOL! :)

I used a large language model neural network (artificial intelligence is a deceptive label given to it) to do some research for a legal situation partly as a benchmark to see how it would go. Recall that I am well versed in legal research.

...It was appallingly, confidently, persistently and cheerfully wrong. Glossing over the details, I will simply say it invented cases and statutes, and when I said this chapter does not exist it said sorry I meant that chapter and when I said that chapter doesn't exist it said sorry I meant this chapter... which was the first chapter(!)

It's all bullshit.

Allow me to bottom line my own concern

by JoFrance, Saturday, December 13, 2025, 19:31 (16 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Sunday, December 21, 2025, 23:46

More on #1
To avoid tariffs, some companies, like Apple, will invest $600B to move some of its manufacturing to America over the next 4 years. Other companies have promised to manufacture here instead of overseas to avoid tariffs. We'll just have to wait and see if it all pans out. I think it will because Trump has good business instincts.

On #2

I don't know who can fix our polarization problem in our country but it sure isn't Trump.

He would fix the public safety problem if he could. States allow the lawlessness and won't work with the federal government. Trump does as much as he can to clean up the country.

On #3

He is building warships now. He's going to build up our military. No more trannies in the military. The country is in good hands with Trump.

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Allow me to bottom line my own concern

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Sunday, December 21, 2025, 23:47 (8 days ago) @ JoFrance

More on #1
To avoid tariffs, some companies, like Apple, will invest $600B to move some of its manufacturing to America over the next 4 years. Other companies have promised to manufacture here instead of overseas to avoid tariffs. We'll just have to wait and see if it all pans out. I think it will because Trump has good business instincts.

The tariffs are reasonable now. They are a reasonable tack now because the US exports very little tariffable goods. That seems to me to be an excellent driver of productive capacity. When the US supplied many countries with goods, tariffs were a horrible idea.

On #2

I don't know who can fix our polarization problem in our country but it sure isn't Trump.

His administration has effectively attacked the leftism problem by decapitating the heads of the snakes. IE: closing USAID+other money wasting feifdoms; plus putting enormous financial pressure on some universities. Communist thought leadership emanates from the university system.

The media should be fixed. Defunding PBS is a great start. There is far too much left leaning focused commentary embedded in the mass media, especially news. IMO news outlets (ABC/CBS etc) should have their output scored by AI and a scorecard of political leaning should be developed that grades each network and news program.

He would fix the public safety problem if he could. States allow the lawlessness and won't work with the federal government. Trump does as much as he can to clean up the country.

IMO he hasn't applied appropriate force to state and local leaders who are violating federal supremacy.

-On #3

He is building warships now. He's going to build up our military. No more trannies in the military. The country is in good hands with Trump.

I do think this is a 100% win. It doesn't make my life better but it is good to see decency and strength return as values in the military.

Allow me to bottom line my own concern

by JoFrance, Friday, December 26, 2025, 19:14 (3 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Tariffs were a way for the US to make trading with other countries fair to the US. For years we paid tariffs to other countries to buy their goods, but we never charged them tariffs in return. The EU, Canada and other countries were unfair in their trade practices with us, especially the EU.

Trump has renegotiated new trade deals with many countries and it has been a major money maker for the US. We've made almost $250B so far in tariff revenue and they haven't even been in effect for a year. $250B! Can you believe it?

I hope they use it to pay down the country's debt. That's a nice chunk of money that can really make a dent.

You're not wrong

by IT guy, Tuesday, December 23, 2025, 23:44 (6 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

You bring up some great points.

There is a lot that hasn't been done. He was left with a mess though.

There is some that has been done. Even if he isn't accomplishing much, at least he kept Harris out of office like he did with Hillary in 2016. My uncle at the time said that if Trump didn't accomplish anything, that would be fine, since he kept Hillary out of office. That said, he does have an opportunity to get things down with the Republican Congress.....or does he? There are plenty of RINOs that have their own agenda.

As for MTG, he treated her worse than many of the Democrats. She always came across to me as somewhat of a grifter or attention whore. That doesn't justify the treatment that she received but she did seem to think she was more important than she really was. Funny thing is that her fiance (Brian Gleen) stood side by side with staunch Trump supporter Steve Bannon at that Turnin Point event they did last week.

Any thoughts on his Rob Reiner post? Trump really lit him up, only a day after he was killed.

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What Trump said about R Reiner is exactly what the left says about conservative deaths

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Wednesday, December 24, 2025, 00:56 (6 days ago) @ IT guy
edited by Cornpop Sutton, Wednesday, December 24, 2025, 15:35

Trump's Rob Reiner post exactly encapsulates what I feel about Trump.

Rob Reiner was a huge douche about his TDS, however, he was a TOWERING creative talent of the latter 20th century and not only directed movies but also invited many well known acting and comedic talent into show business. He had douche liberal aspects but he was not a bad small dismissable guy.

Trump's dismissal of Reiner will only sound great to dedicated Trump Fart Sniffers who lap up Trump's bloviations as gospel. To me it was cringe and petty to the 20th degree.

Which makes me wonder how, and if, Trump's brain is really working. For fuck's sake, what about optics if nothing else. Sic: I wouldn't say what he said publicly because it makes ME look like shit.

Also Reiner wasn't really influential publicly nor powerful in policy. He had a big mouth but outside entertainment he was a yapping Pomeranian.

It all points to my premise that Trump is fucking stupid.

What Trump said about R Reiner is exactly what the left says about conservative deaths

by IT guy, Friday, December 26, 2025, 15:01 (3 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

I agree. I wasn't a fan of Rob Reiner's political views but he did some great work in the entertainment business. My first memories of him were watching All in the Family re-runs as a kid.

Anyway, Reiner was pretty tough on Trump and there was talk that he was in on the Russia collusion thing. He was vocal about his opinions. However, at least he classy after Charlie Kirk was shot.

As for Trump supporters' reactions, it was cringy to see some of the comments in the article that talked about Trump's post. No doubt that there were plenty of tasteless remarks from the left after the Charlie Kirk shooting but two wrongs don't make a right.

For fuck's sake, what about optics if nothing else.

He's never really cared much about optics, yet at the same time, it seems that he wants everyone's approval and he's bothered when people disapprove of him.

Also Reiner wasn't really influential publicly nor powerful in policy. He had a big mouth but outside entertainment he was a yapping Pomeranian.

True. Trump should have been above having to take a swipe at him. He should have just expressed his condolences and moved on, or said nothing if he was that bothered by the guy.

What Trump said about R Reiner is exactly what the left says about conservative deaths

by JoFrance, Friday, December 26, 2025, 18:30 (3 days ago) @ Cornpop Sutton

Trump's Rob Reiner post was just awful and tasteless. He turns a lot of people off when he does things like that, but Trump can't help himself. If you think about it, Trump was severely abused by him and like-minded people for 10 years so he's very bitter, but he would be better off not saying anything at all. He just can't help himself and its to his detriment.


Rob Reiner was a very talented man, but he was filled with hatred for Trump. What happened to him and his wife was just terrible. Its the ultimate kick in the ass to be killed by your own son.

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Other Trump opinions

by Cornpop Sutton ⌂, A bad bad dude who makes good shine., Wednesday, December 24, 2025, 01:14 (6 days ago) @ IT guy

There is a lot that hasn't been done. He was left with a mess though.

Effectively nothing is being done about the debt, which is now at collapsing nation state levels. And Congress is a hole of douches with nothing being done about health care inflation and the ACA mess.

There is some that has been done. Even if he isn't accomplishing much, at least he kept Harris out of office like he did with Hillary in 2016. My uncle at the time said that if Trump didn't accomplish anything, that would be fine, since he kept Hillary out of office.

That is absolute truth. At worst Trump is a placeholder against outright evil.

That said, he does have an opportunity to get things down with the Republican Congress.....or does he? There are plenty of RINOs that have their own agenda.

Republican congressmen are losers. They get nothing done.

As for MTG, he treated her worse than many of the Democrats. She always came across to me as somewhat of a grifter or attention whore. That doesn't justify the treatment that she received but she did seem to think she was more important than she really was.

That's right, and OTOH MTG was a mirror reflection of Trump's self absorption.

I mean, Trump should go after some faggot activist judges, and faggot communists in public life. How about a Truth Social post about Maxine Waters for example?

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