Greenland Analysis - Eliminating an "attractive nuisance"

Apparently Trump wants to buy Greenland from Denmark and is offering the residents of Greenland a huge sum of money (I assume payout to every resident of the island) in exchange.

Meanwhile Germany, Canada, Sweden and others are saber rattling and sending troops to support Denmark's claim on the island.

I have this take:

Greenland will become increasingly compelling as a natural resource hub simply because all of the accessible stuff in the temperate parts of the world are known and starting to be played out. Also it sits on the Northwest Passage which is becoming clearer of sea ice as warming progresses - which encourages Russia to perform more resource exploration and military operations in the Arctic off of Canada's northeastern coast.

Greenland is an attractive target for economic colonization by China and a beach head for Russia. Northern Europe is somewhat at risk being relatively close to Greenland. While at the same time, again, Denmark has no resources at the magnitude necessary to defend the island. Greenland is basically a magnet for the wrong type of interest.

Basically I'd term Greenland an "attractive nuisance", an attractor of bad influences, just as a swimming pool with no fence or barrier around the yard it's in is an attractive nuisance that is a liability for the homeowner.

The US should take Greenland, hopefully by purchase and not by force. If the US is to become an empire (already pretty much is) we need the natural resources that are just sitting there. And we will defend it much better than any other western power.

Also, use of force to acquire Greenland IMO is a bid to remove the US from NATO, which I also support. NATO will expel the US if we use force. Fine.

I'm fine with this. This isn't jingoistic megalomania. It makes perfect sense. Trump is expanding the sphere that the US controls. Above board rather than using the CIA and slimy proxy operations. And exiting NATO removes us from dealing with the Ukrainian issues.

Much better the US make a "hard" bid and acquire, than China making "soft" incursion with no legal transfer but instead projecting huge force into the Arctic.

We can go further.

You've already said Trump wants Greenland. This goes back to 2019, before Russia crossed the border into the Ukraine in 2022.

Trump also wants Russia, in the sense that he wants normalised relations. He wants Russia not to be the enemy, he wants trade etc. Or maybe just trade :) One of the things he needs in order to get Russia is to end hostilities in Ukraine, get the whole thing sorted out and the final situation accepted internationally. Big job but he's working on it. The pharisees running the UK, Germany, France and Italy have sabotaged Trump's every attempt. They want Russia for themselves, all those wonderful resources inside Russian territory. Starmer, Merz, Macron and Meloni have been demonising Putin the entire time. (Ironic, really.) They've done this safe in the knowledge, and presumably deliberately leveraging this knowledge, that they have the US to defend them should Russia attack. War between Europe and Russia would suit the pharisees because it would strengthen their weakening grip on power in Europe plus it would open opportunities to get into Russia and seize resources. This wet dream has been going on for yonks. Recall Mackinder's 1904 heartland theory.

You've already said a military acquisition of Greenland by the US would remove the US from NATO.

Just in the last week, Merz, Macron and Meloni have said they need to start talking to Putin(!). Recall that Trump has been saying both that he could buy Greenland and that he could take Greenland by force. The pharisees have heard the second part and, skipping over the bits you've already said, they've realised they need Russia onside. It's hilarious to watch although tragic for every person who has been killed or maimed due to the pharisees' war obsession.

So Trump wants Greenland and Russia, for two different sets of reasons. I think he has woken up to the fact that he can use Greenland to get Russia.

^ Great stuff.

Basically to extend your thesis, Trump is using Greenland acquisition talk as a gigantic political splitting wedge. BRILLIANT. He's messing up the current international order and expectations of western powers by just memeing without even doing anything. And it's completely riskless.

Trump is like someone who jiggles something on a machine in a shop to make it start working. Kind of.

I have one dispute with your overall comments...

The pharisees running the UK, Germany, France and Italy have sabotaged Trump's every attempt. They want Russia for themselves, all those wonderful resources inside Russian territory. Starmer, Merz, Macron and Meloni have been demonising Putin the entire time. (Ironic, really.)

The idea that these dickless autocrats even fantasize about making that kind of grab is utterly hilarious. All they're capable of doing effectively is shitting all over their own citizens.

Trump wants Greenland because of its strategic location near the Arctic. He wants to expand the US military facilities there. They have a lot of rare earth minerals but Trump said its very difficult to mine there. It would be easier to mine on the moon.

I can't believe Europe doesn't see the value of the US owning Greenland. The new frontier for Russia and China is the Arctic. Trump sees that the US needs to have a stronger presence there to be able to protect the US and Europe. The Europeans don't see it like that. They see it as Trump moving in on their territory. Even though Greenland is an independent country domestically, it is part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Denmark is supposed to provide defense for them.

Trump is taking a hard line by imposing tariffs on some EU countries if they won't make a deal on Greenland. I don't think he'll take no for an answer either. The EU needs to make a deal. Who could better defend Greenland? The US or Denmark?

If the US got booted out of NATO we would be better off.

An alien would say "why is this enormous island that is geographically part of North America actually a colony of this small and remote Northern European country that has no ability to control its possessions? Why is the much more powerful and nearby US not the protector of this place?"

I can't believe Europe doesn't see the value of the US owning Greenland.

Just plain TDS. Trump does anything, it's automatically bad.

Europe loves its hollow historical precedents.

If Denmark had actually exploited and developed Greenland to an extent a takeover would be wrong. But the history is that Greenland is an inferior outpost to Denmark. Greenland's laborers are exploited for the fishing industry, housing on the island is decrepit and filled with things like black mold, and there isn't much of an economy. Basically Denmark pays for a UBI and health coverage for island residents. To me it seems like a dead zone.

In fact I read that Denmark at one point in the 50s and 60s was sterilizing young native women and removing kids from families and relocating them to Denmark in order to eliminate native (I think Inuit?) culture and language.

And meanwhile China is trying to control almost everything around its waters. Why not us?

It really makes no sense to me that Denmark controls Greenland. They don't own it. They've never bothered to do anything there, like you said, so why be against what the US wants to do there? They'll use it to provide security for the US and other countries.

Its up to Greenlanders to decide what they'll do. If they're smart, they'll go with the US. Denmark gave them nothing.

Denmark will give the US sovereignty over parts of Greenland for free. This is a good article about it.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-curtis/2026/01/22/greenland-deal-n2669878

Its a lot better than owning all of Greenland. Trump got everything he wanted by playing hardball. Its the "Art of the Deal" on display. Greenland will be part of the Golden Dome defense system that Trump wants to build to protect the country.

Respectfully, this outcome (if it's being accurately described) seems liable to morph into a version of a Gitmo-in-hostile-Cuba situation and I would chalk it up as another Trump loss that gets bright-sided/silver-lining-ed/five-D-chess-ed/that-was-his-secret-goal-all-along-ed.

For now, Greenland is an autonomous thing under Denmark with Greenland having its own parliament and foreign relations being handled (mostly but not entirely) by Denmark but the island's official policy is that independence is the ultimate goal. It has very few people and nearly 90% of these are (speaking plainly) low-IQ Inuits with the usual Western-hemi-caveman social problems. The whole population is under 60k people but there are tiny and growing Filipino, Thai, and Chinese communities on the island. I can see a near-future independent Greenland voting in non-Danish, non-Inuit officials or with Inuit/Dane figureheads or bribe-recipients who enact something like an "open door policy" and cut deals with the US's geopolitical enemies that could run the spectrum from resource-extraction (fishing, minerals) with covert/denied military activity all the way to public/open non-US, non-EU military bases.

I'd been hopeful that Trump was really serious about getting Greenland, thinking that he might be trying to earn for himself a future version of the write-ups for the Louisiana Purchase, Seward's Folly (Alaska), etc. in current/recent US history texts. In retrospect, it seems like the Greenland stuff was at least halfway stirred up again to distract from his disappointing (and inexplicable) refusal to serve up the Epstein clientele for well-deserved prosecution and persecution and the shameful "release" of more chaff/slop/ultra-redacted pages.

Thank you for the critical post.

Respectfully, this outcome (if it's being accurately described) seems liable to morph into a version of a Gitmo-in-hostile-Cuba situation and I would chalk it up as another Trump loss that gets bright-sided/silver-lining-ed/five-D-chess-ed/that-was-his-secret-goal-all-along-ed.

LOL. I feel you.

Sniffing Trump's farts aside - while I was rah rah about the potential of the "takeover", and while I acknowledge the reality of the real world situation that you summed up adeptly....

Europe is a freaking joke. The leaders there are basically programmed like robots to think in terms of decline, supplication, and making their citizens solidly and forcefully take it up the ass. Trump is positioning to expand American influence throughout the western hemisphere ... while native Europeans are begging Muslims on their knees to pretty please stop raping their daughters. Europe has been for decades in a position of demure, polite acceptance and embrace of decline. Trump's attempting to better the US. The loser wimps of the EU are having their brains melt as a result.

Trump's rhetoric pushed several NATO countries to mobilize actual troops to Greenland. And now Europeans are saying that they don't need the US, US should bugger off, etc. This turns out to have been an awesome way to distance the US from responsibility for the retarded shit that most of the NATO alliance backs, such as continued Ukraine military and financial support. We can titrate off some of our support because after all we're horrible now.

If Trump was being honest ... he got what we needed - access to potential natural resources. Which are almost impossible to extract being located 1+ mile under ice. Maybe he just wanted more real estate for more military bases.

At least he didn't pay a trillion dollars to buy and take over an indigenous welfare society.

Trump did a masterful job of shaking up a continent of weakling fence sitting bureaucrats with their pinkies in the air. The weakness of the EU does kind of weigh down the US... the liberal elites want the US to turn to shit just like the EU. Trump made them wake the f*** up.

I can see a near-future independent Greenland voting in non-Danish, non-Inuit officials or with Inuit/Dane figureheads or bribe-recipients who enact something like an "open door policy" and cut deals with the US's geopolitical enemies that could run the spectrum from resource-extraction (fishing, minerals) with covert/denied military activity all the way to public/open non-US, non-EU military bases.

Perhaps Trump was thinking exactly this. That Greenland was too much of a wild card, an unstable entity, with a poorly educated low economic value population.

Distraction? Probably. From Epstein, from the awful mess in Snowgadishu, etc.

Can't find anything in your post to disagree with.

Especially your observations on Europe. True. What a f*cking mess overall.

I've spent years sort of ping-ponging back and forth between two extremes: America-Fuck-YEAH! [belief that Trump (and/or maybe his set of hypothetical hidden puppeteers) seem to be genuinely pro-American, whatever that means these days] and OH-NO!-It-really-is-Problem-Reaction-Solution [belief that Trump and his side are really just one half of a good-cop-bad-cop strategy to enslave America and bring it and the rest of Oceania in line with Eurasia and Eastasia]. I exhaust and demoralize/blackpill myself.

I have some health issues I'm dealing with so IDGAF about the long term effects of Trump's actions.

I don't exactly believe in him or his "holy mission". I see Trump as a force of positive chaos generally in the direction that the country and the world should go. What he says and makes actually happen are totally random. I'm along for the ride.

There is a difference between what Trump wants to do in Greenland and Gitmo in Cuba. Denmark and Europe will benefit from the protection the US will provide through its military bases in Greenland. Its a win for them in that way. For Trump, he will be able to proceed with the Golden Dome.

Trump wants Greenland for its strategic location. I think he would've liked to buy it, but this is as far as he can go right now with the Europeans. Greenland dreams of being independent one day of any country, but the truth is they can't survive without help from another country. Thats why they are part of the Kingdom of Denmark.

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